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| Layabout Posts too much (2/23/02 3:37:07 am) Reply |
Art Tutorials (and
other Art links)
Hey hey, people! Alot of the questions on the boards lately have been art related questions, eg, what programs should i use?? How do i make l33t backgrounds or kickass characters!! Well this thread here is going to be your one stop shop for art type links and stuff! Anyhoo, just add your art links to this thread, and we will get chris to make this a sticky topic so it's always here for reference. Image Creation/Manipulation Programs: www.jasc.com/ - The Jasc web site, authors of Paint Shop Pro. www.adobe.com/ - The Adobe web site, authors of Photoshop. www-msi.ensil.unilim.fr/~...rafx2.html - The home of Grafx2, a dos based paint program. download.cnet.com/downloa...15.8774710 - NeoPaint for windows. Free paint program. download.cnet.com/downloa...14.8774713 - Neopaint for dos. Free paint program. www.ultimatepaint.com/ - paint program... don't know anything about it. Generic Art Tutorials: www.polykarbon.com/ - This is mainly for manga style tutorials, but there are a few scanning tips and computer colouring tutorials. 2d Game Art Tutorials: kafkaskoffee.tripod.com/ - Mr Colossal's Home page. Tutorials are in the games section. There are some cool sprites in the art / sprite section. user.tninet.se/~vqb114l/ilb - The Intoxicated Little Bunny web site. Contains great tutorials by 2ma2. tsugumo.swoo.net/tutorial/ - excellent 2d art tutorials that deal with rpg and street fighter type graphics. Still helpful though... And read the faq as well. pixelation.cjb.net/ - The pixelation msgboards. Lots of great stuff here too. maniacco.tripod.com/tutorials.htm - By igor, really nice tutorial on walking animation. www.geocities.com/rotokoco/tutorials/ - Tutorials by some guy who hangs out on the pixelation msgboards. Both are really good! elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/ - Some fantasy art tutorial site. Lots of tutorials. I didn't think it's relevant (i dislike many things fantasy, so i'm not a geek, hehehe... nah) but someone requested it to be put up, so here it is. Suckas! Documentation: http://www.idevgames.com/downloads/tutorials/Feldman/arcade_animation_tutorial.pdf - An excellent document on game animation. Highly recommended! Edited by: Layabout at: 4/23/02 3:02:39 pm |
| Mr
Colossal Break out the Bubbly (2/23/02 5:44:55 am) Reply |
Big pimpin' spreaden
cheese
there are my tutorials: nakederic.tripod.com/tutorial.htm
Digital-Chris Jones Digital-Helm AGS Community White Board |
| c
leksutin Expert (2/23/02 9:35:00 am) Reply |
Re: Big pimpin'
spreaden cheese
Here's a downlaod for Neopaint for windos download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10077-100-8774710.html?tag=st.dl.10077-106-1.lst-0-15.8774710 And for Dos: download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10077-100-8774713.html?tag=st.dl.10077-106-1.lst-0-14.8774713 And Here's a beginer's alternitave to Photoshop: download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10077-100-3877380.html?tag=st.dl.10077-106-1.lst-1-12.3877380 Enjoy! C.
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Gilbert
Cheung  Moderator (2/23/02 11:09:35 am) Reply |
Re: Big pimpin'
spreaden cheese
Grafx 2.0, 256-colour graphics programme for DOS, a nice replacement for Deluxe Paint (though I'm still using DP), unfortunately it's been discontinued: www-msi.ensil.unilim.fr/~...rafx2.html Regards, |
EvenWolf
 Break out the Bubbly (2/23/02 11:14:22 am) Reply  |
Re: Big pimpin'
spreaden cheese
whooohooo, this is where I step in, second Gilbert, and post a url of my Grafx2 work: Thanks for letting me show off.... again. |
| 2ma2 Fountain of Knowledge (2/24/02 4:09:38 pm) Reply  |
Whutto! That's he word
of the day..
Wouldn't be better if we compiled a following list in one post? Just my .02 http://www.adobe.com/ - Photoshop (programme) user.tninet.se/~vqb114l/ilb - ILB (tutoriale) Who the hell is Olle Sarri? - Chrille |
| AGSking3001 Expert (2/24/02 7:14:43 pm) Reply  |
Re: Whutto! That's he
word of the day..
damn can i crack neopaint for windows? its a damn 30-daytrial- I'm scared of those. ohh and can i also crack paint shop pro or photoshop? Edited by: AGSking3001 at: 2/24/02 6:19:26 pm |
| Layabout Break out the Bubbly (2/24/02 10:07:52 pm) Reply |
Re: Whutto! That's he
word of the day..
just get psp. it's easy to find cracks for and neopaint is mediocre. The Quest for my Raincoat Starring DickBoy available now!!! http://www.tbns.net/Layabout/raincoat.zip/ I think Chris Jones should be proud of how we put his laboriously conceived engine to good use. -- goldmund about "the quest for my Raincoat" |
CPage
 Knows their stuff (2/26/02 2:08:48 am) Reply |
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someone posted this link and i love the program but its no t much different from paint www.ultimatepaint.com |
| Layabout Break out the Bubbly (4/9/02 12:01:18 pm) Reply |
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Found some more art link, and i decided this topic needed to be seen... tsugumo.swoo.net/tutorial/ boards.swoo.net/cgi-bin/i...act=SF&f=2 Check out the faq on the first link as well... |
| OneThinkingGal Newbie (4/9/02 3:36:49 pm) Reply |
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2ma2's animation tutorials are fabulous!..actually I'm posting to say I'm a newbie and this thread could use a better title, because from the outside its not very clear what it is and its a very very useful thread for us newbies.  Ack don't flame me... 
Never leave well enough alone. Edited by: OneThinkingGal at: 4/9/02 3:39:26 pm |
| egg
head cheesy bird Expert (4/9/02 6:20:53 pm) Reply  |
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maby this should be stickied to the top of the critics lounge.
I hate te way those bubblegum chewing, obese, loud americans sterotype us ,old boy, what.[link]http://helium.iwarp.com[/link] |
| OneThinkingGal Newbie (4/9/02 8:00:38 pm) Reply |
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newbies come here for help....the critics lounge would be for people who already know.. Never leave well enough alone. |
M0DS
 Moderator (4/10/02 12:26:07 pm) Reply  |
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She's been thinking. agdzine.adventuredevelope...orials.htm Mods Mark "Mods" Lovegrove 
Edited by: M0DS
at: 4/10/02 1:17:23 pm |
| ThunderStorm Knows their stuff (4/10/02 2:37:12 pm) Reply  |
LucasArts style
Recently, someone asked for some tutorial on doing LucasArts-style backgrounds. Could it be this one? It looks quite good to me, although it's very hard to copy the real LucasArts style. Just have a look. |
| M0DS
Moderator (4/10/02 2:43:14 pm) Reply |
Re: LucasArts
style
It's not the original one that I knew, but it is by stalwart who's making the sequel to FoA, and it looks pretty useful! Mods Mark "Mods" Lovegrove
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| OneThinkingGal Newbie (4/10/02 4:03:10 pm) Reply |
Re: LucasArts
style
I think too much.  I found this useful when I was drawing since I am better at sculpting in 3d and apparently in 2D as well: ronstoons.com/vector.htm Not sure if its related, but there it is. I'm just a newbie.... |
| Magintz Moderator (4/10/02 4:24:27 pm) Reply  |
Re: LucasArts
style
I made this a sticky topc as it is something people always need, and are always asking for. If it remains sticky then it will be easier for people to access if mods dissagrees he will have to unstick it.
Magintz's Monthly Advice - NEW! "Save the tree's......... Wipe your ass with an owl" My Homepage |
| M0DS
Moderator (4/10/02 4:26:07 pm) Reply |
Re: LucasArts
style
Yeah leave it stuck for now. Magintz: I have your tune, waiting for you to sign in to messenger. One_Thinking_Gal: You may well be a newbie, but your a girl, so you get instant privalledges in my book   Mods Mark "Mods" Lovegrove
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| OneThinkingGal Newbie (4/10/02 4:57:03 pm) Reply |
Re: LucasArts
style
Hehehe cool M0Ds, I've been lurking a while so I feel I know y'all....I was watching, yup....
I'm just a newbie.... |
| CPage
Expert (4/10/02 6:35:14 pm) Reply  |
Re: LucasArts
style
A woman!!! Hey baby you do know have a sensitive side dont you okay sorry again you guys i just had to get that out of my system BTW i'm working on a tut it should be done soon (as if i know anything)
My site |
| Magintz Moderator (4/10/02 7:35:35 pm) Reply |
Re: LucasArts
style
hey! This is a picture of me o0 u - (you are joking about the woman thing right! Women dont seem to come to these boards very often! If you are then yay were reaching people)
Magintz's Monthly Advice - NEW! "Save the tree's......... Wipe your ass with an owl" My Homepage |
| OneThinkingGal AGS User (4/10/02 7:41:00 pm) Reply |
Re: LucasArts
style
I'm a woman. I didn't realise women were such an alien life form on this board... This one had a nifty grass effect that i used: http://www.sumrallworks.com/freebies/buttonhole/psp/tutorials/scene/ Feel free to ignore any that aren't useful, I'm just throwing out ones I've used. I'm just a newbie.... Edited by: OneThinkingGal at: 4/10/02 7:47:47 pm |
| CPage
Expert (4/10/02 8:17:28 pm) Reply |
Re: LucasArts
style
alot of us havent seen what you people call "Women" for years not me tho I have 50 waiting out my door 24 hours a day
My site |
| Mr
Colossal Break out the Bubbly (4/10/02 11:53:24 pm) Reply |
Re: LucasArts
style
i moved all my tutorials to the new Kafka's Koffee they are in the Games section
Digital-Chris Jones Digital-Helm AGS Community White Board |
| ratracer2 Knows their stuff (4/11/02 11:08:18 am) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
I'll add www.corbis.com (no tutorials or paint progs, but lots and lots of pics from where to get ideas) |
| OneThinkingGal AGS User (4/11/02 3:13:22 pm) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
Well in that case, let me add www.webshots.com I'm just a newbie.... |
| egg
head cheesy bird Expert (4/11/02 7:11:26 pm) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
you're just an AGS user. I hate te way those bubblegum chewing, obese, loud americans sterotype us ,old boy, what.[link]http://helium.iwarp.com[/link] |
| OneThinkingGal Getting Started (4/11/02 10:19:50 pm) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
I am. I used to be a newbie you know...anyway the webshots community photos are handy for textures and such- the gallery is pretty useless. But now it says getting started...its all so confusing.
I'm just a newbie.... Edited by: OneThinkingGal at: 4/11/02 10:21:43 pm |
| Esseb Fountain of Knowledge (4/11/02 10:27:31 pm) Reply  |
Re: pics
gallery
CJ just changed the two first status titles, and added a new "basic technical questions" forum. Now it's beginner instead of newbie, and getting started instead of ags user. You're just getting started Gal . (sounds
somewhat poetic)
Gee, I hope I spelled that right Edited by: Esseb at: 4/11/02 10:28:18 pm |
| OneThinkingGal Getting Started (4/11/02 10:34:47 pm) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
Now it makes sense...thanks for explaining Esseb Whee..I'm not a newbie now! Edited by: OneThinkingGal at: 4/11/02 10:35:27 pm |
| M0DS
Moderator (4/12/02 10:47:36 pm) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
Still havent
added/msg'd me on AIM If im not on it, just add meh! 
naromtnarom Mods Mark "Mods" Lovegrove
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| OneThinkingGal Getting Started (4/12/02 11:27:42 pm) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
I did too! But you're never on. Maybe you
need to add me or something
___________________________________________________ Beta. Software undergoes beta testing shortly before it's released. Beta is Latin for 'still doesn't work.' Edited by: OneThinkingGal |
| Mr
Colossal Break out the Bubbly (4/13/02 5:34:39 am) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
i made a new tutorial, it's at my site [this is the 3rd time announcing this] squeeeeeebonk! eric edit: ah yes, i found this too: www.geocities.com/rotokoco/tutorials/selout/ it might help some people or at least give them some tips, i don't think i totally get it tho
Digital-Chris Jones Digital-Helm AGS Community White Board Edited by: Mr Colossal |
| Mr
Colossal Break out the Bubbly (4/18/02 3:04:48 am) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
so i made another tutorial kafkaskoffee.tripod.com look in games/tutorials/drawing a character from a photo source and there we go eric loves you
Digital-Chris Jones Digital-Helm AGS Community White Board |
| MillsJROSS Break out the Bubbly (4/21/02 3:59:48 am) Reply |
Re: pics
gallery
Eric...I love you're tutorials. There so great! If only you would take the time to put that genius into a game with a cool MIDI made by an annonymous person. -MillsJROSS |
| alienfetus Beginner (4/23/02 2:38:08 pm) Reply |
elfwood
tutorials
elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/ This is one of the best art tutorial sites I've ever seen. I can't believe noone's mentioned it yet. It's focus is on fantasy art (not that that's a bad thing ) but the
tutorials are still relevent for any style of art. There are lessons on
pretty much ANYTHING, with a lot of them being on general art techniques
and stuff (which is good to know for anyone who wants to learn to draw)
plus lessons on scanning drawings in, colouring in with paint programs
etc.yay this is also my first post too. Hi everyone! Adventure games hold a special place in my heart having grown up on them since Space Quest 1 (EGA version of course ) and I've always
lamented the fall of Sierra from it's glorious adventuring throne, so when
my brother told me about AGS I was stoked. It's awesome to see classic
adventure gaming still alive and kicking!!
Edited by: alienfetus
at: 4/23/02 2:50:01 pm |
| MrPanda Expert (4/23/02 5:13:29 pm) Reply |
re
I'm too lazy to check out all of these freeware paint programs. which one is the best? also, where can I find painbrush? |
| Layabout Break out the Bubbly (4/24/02 8:07:22 am) Reply |
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I recommend d/lding psp 7.04 and cracking it with one of those illegal patches. It's nice and good. Paintbrush is known as MS Paint in win 9x - xp. Paintbrush is the old version included with win 3.x - us old users... |
| Esseb Fountain of Knowledge (4/24/02 3:08:58 pm) Reply |
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Unless he's referring to cornjobs "painbrush" program. Brrrr.
Gee, I hope I spelled that right |
| MrPanda Expert (4/24/02 5:15:19 pm) Reply |
re
I was. why the "brrrr"? |
| Esseb Fountain of Knowledge (4/25/02 12:19:17 am) Reply |
Re: re
There's a reason "pain" is part of the name . I don't know
the url, perhaps corny can shed some light.
Gee, I hope I spelled that right |
jannar85
 Posts too much (4/25/02 8:25:40 am) Reply |
Re: Art Tutorials (and
other Art links)
Wow ThunderStorm! That tut was really good! I needed this, thanks!
Sincerely |
| Capn
Nintendo Getting Started (4/30/02 10:24:18 pm) Reply  |
Re: Art Tutorials (and
other Art links)
Are there any tutorials on making cartoonish backgrounds/characters? I've looked at most of those and they all seem too realistic. Capn Nintendo |
| CPage
Expert (5/2/02 7:33:10 am) Reply |
Re: Art Tutorials (and
other Art links)
well it took me forever to load but here is a link to the great 2ma2"s tute user.tninet.se/~vqb114l/ilb/tutorials/char.htm
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| comicguy Beginner (5/6/02 10:32:01 pm) Reply |
hello everybody
I'm new here though I visit these forums from time to time. my two cents about free 2d software. gimp for windows (very powerful but a bit complex if you're beguining) has all the tools and more.Animation export and playback from layers. user.sgic.fi/~tml/gimp/ Pixia, gives a smooth wacom pen stroke www.ab.wakwak.com/~knight/index.html Bright 1.06. Good 2d editor. Some animation support. The company seem to have disapear. It was a non limited shareware. But some sites anonuced it as freeware. The site is impossible to find. Here yet there's a link to download (because this guy actually hosted the file ) : www.gratilog.net/graphi2.htm http://www.ultimatepaint.com/ I have used this one, I mention it again because though the stroke is much worse than Pixia's, for people with mices, and deluxepaint lovers, is a cool thing, and as all here, freeware. Take in cosideration all the buttons you have to keep pressed to see more options. has many things that DP had. 1.91 version is still there; it is yet freeware(scroll down downloads section). This one is for making seamless tiles for backrounds. http://www.users.qwest.net/~sharman1/ I also use reptile 2.0 for that: www.sausage.com/supertoolz/reptile2.html One that I think you'll like. Is cool for making the kind of sprites you use to make for ags games. I also learned well to use it, it's also free, and has onion skin feature (you can see the previous or next frame in transparency) http://www.netmag.co.uk/downloads/default.asp?subsectionid=17&articleid=54112&pagetype=2 Imageforge freeware, somewhat limited but saves the anim in bmp filmstrip, and has some curiouse features. www.cursorarts.com/ca_imffw.html lastly www.irfanview.com as the greatest viewer. And a vectorial freebie if I would just remember one now...would be great as it helps a lot in sprites creation. I think these are very cool free applications for the stuff to be made in old style 2d games (my favourites) Hope to have told you something new I may post a drawing or something in critic lounge soon
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| comicguy Beginner (5/6/02 10:41:34 pm) Reply |
my fault
soory, i made a mistake: Gimp for windows is here -> www.gimp.org/win32/ |
| Lay Unregistered User (5/7/02 4:02:00 am) Reply |
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I'll add these in later when I can be bothered to login... |
| M0DS
Dispenser of Justice (5/9/02 10:33:57 pm) Reply |
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Please stick this topic at the top, forum mods! Mods Mark "Mods" Lovegrove
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| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/10/02 12:09:41 am) Reply |
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Um....aren't you the forum mod? 
tsugumo.swoo.net/tutorial/default.htm - dunno if anyone posted this ___________________________________________________________________________________________
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| Layabout Break out the Bubbly (5/10/02 1:20:08 am) Reply |
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In about 2 days we will have the same questions in the ags general: HOW ARES I DRARWS TEH BARKGRUNDIS!>!?!?!!?!1!!1 Less people check here and the regs know it is here. More people check the ags forum. OTG: yep, i put that link there. And mods is only mod ofthe ags general. |
| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/10/02 1:42:32 am) Reply |
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That's why I said to leave it there but someone moved it!! And at the top it says moderated by: M0ds or am i seeing things?
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| Chris
Jones Respect my authoritai (5/10/02 12:34:51 pm) Reply |
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I've just made mods a mod here so that there is someone to deal with sticking topics and the like
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| Esseb Fountain of Knowledge (5/10/02 1:02:33 pm) Reply |
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Yes, mods is good with sticky things. Gee, I hope I spelled that right |
| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/12/02 7:13:48 pm) Reply |
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Anyone using neopaint 4 know where to enter serial numbers? ___________________________________________________________________________________________
Write---edit---check--edit--done! |
| cornjob
dot com Fountain of Knowledge (5/12/02 9:46:15 pm) Reply  |
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I noticed someone was talking about Painbrush... Well you should able to get it... follow the "Run Hot" link in my sig. It should be listed in one of my more recent updates. |
| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/13/02 3:59:37 am) Reply |
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www.megatoon.org/ - very nice walk cycles. http://www.planetquake.com/shattered/shine/images/ref/index.htm - a collection of references (anatomy, architecture etc.) ___________________________________________________________________________________________
Write---edit---check--edit--done! |
| comicguy Getting Started (5/16/02 9:00:48 pm) Reply |
some tools
www.webattack.com/get/bitstrip.shtml That's cool What allows you is once you have made you animated sprite, let's say a gif animation (it only takes gif as an input, so limited in 256 colors. But you can redraw later on with whatever.The bmp generated is 24bit however) and creates a perfect filmstrip, from left to right or up down, I think. I tested it with the crappy character I made at lunch the other day...it works sweet. I don't know if AGS as many 2d engines use a filmstrip as sprite input. I find it cool fo recoloring, as allows you to work seen the previous and the next frames in a confortable way.You can copy and paste and modify frames easier than with layers or onio screen, mostly in low pixel res. Imageforge (link in previous pages) freeware seems also to have some support of filmstrip way of working, but didn't manage to find how.yep I think it can save as bmp filmstrip also. Remember Imageforge is a paint software with animation output. Though I prefer Bright1.06, being very similar. but this specific feature, seems not to be in Bright. Other options: TrentStrip (scroll that page) www.trentsoft.com/software/ I was looking for the opposite thing, to create a gif anim or avi from this bitstrip thing...to make it more useful... I think one of them is GifMovie gear 2.6x (yet was free)..it seems to be free (you'll find some other free gif animation creation software): http://www.williamlogan.org/FreewareIndex/GraphicsGifAnimation.html The pitty is that seems there aren't any free one for this. and well...of course adobe premiere+Ps, but we're talking about freebies. by the way, for those of you who wish to limit to 256 colors, here's a palette editor. jasc, adobe and painter compatible. www.agentur-simon.de/pedit/ and some other sites/tools www.whitsoftdev.com/unfreez/ |
| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/17/02 11:49:03 pm) Reply |
Re: some tools
Comicguy, can you tell me what tweaks I need to do for pixia to work better with my wacom?
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| comicguy Getting Started (5/18/02 10:55:29 am) Reply |
yep
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| comicguy Getting Started (5/18/02 11:02:28 am) Reply |
yep...prepare a cup of
coffee...
Save this post an read it in several days (i wrote it in several minutes  )so you have a wacom...good choice. I feel totally unable to explain this with 3 words, so, don't read if you're not so interested on it. previous thing: The most power in your PC, the better the stroke. An AMD athlon with 256 megs of ram, an old geforce or tnt2, and a defragmented not very ocupied hardrive, (if it is a 7200 rpm ide, barracuda or the like, or even better, then great) I experienced it to be by far the best solution. Probably in systems like NT, win 2k, or XP, due to the better memory and resources handling, you'll notice a really significant improvement. anyway, an old celeron or k6-2 can do well the stuff, but you need good setting knowledge (I'll try to provide it here) First, and very important: load the 2d application you want to configure wacom with (remember, each application can have different wacom settings) in your windows Control Panel, double click the wacom icon. Hope you're familiar with it already If you didn't set up wacom before for that software (if you did, you already have it in the horizontally scrolled list of icons, search for the specific one) , then you just click add menu, then settings for an specific application or something like that. You'll see a list of the applications you have loaded (note that you could set up IE or wordpad if you wish! but probably with the wacom mouse, better ;D) select the 2d freebie, and select wacom pen instead of wacom mouse. First, proyection tab. You'll set up there which area of the tablet correspond to which area of the screen and how. Mess around with each package (well, if you already made cool sensivity seeting (bellow explained) for an specific application) till you get the best performance, response, or accuracy between the movement distance produced by your hand and the distance created in teh screen. All non wacom tablets had a hard setting up of that, often you noticed your horizontal movements would porduce less pixels than vertical hand movements. That could happen yet with wacom and some applications.Just keep it in mind. One to one proyection should work best in theory, but I happen to have almost all setup to a refined proportional proyection. Make your own tests. In tip sensivity, click on the more options button. You'll see how appears 2 new square areas. You draw in the right square a very soft, continuous stroke, that'll change the settings, as you''l be seing at the left square. (you could after that also touch the silder in the left square) I often start a trial and error thing, even touching the sliders at the left square, making alt+tab all the time to switch to the painting application I am making the settings for. As I see the results improving touching here and there, I learn how every application reacts better to what changes. It's never the same proccess. That's the key. It is not simply draging the tip sensivity slider at the top which most people do. Is a complex bunch of things. I only use the simple slider when I want no sensivity or very low sensivity. Ok. An important thing: you can map your pen buttons to a key short cut so you have them more 'handy'. that's 'tool buttons' tab I think. You may setup a key for undo (ctrl+z) in the first pen secondary button (I call the primary the tip, the one which really draws) and right mouse button for secondary button.Why? because in pixia, right mouse button is the color picker You could set the tilt, but for some reason I don't remeber, in the work the way I wanted and have it with no tilt. I use to deactivate tilt angles when it gives problems. Test your self as always. That's enough for the windows wacom tool. Now, with the part of setup inside Pixia. Hit F7 key, or View/Settings menu. That'll bring wacom settings inside Pixia. Those are not very powerful. But still have some influence on your strokes. Ok, in setting tiny window, click on 'tablet tab'. do you see the +,- suare dialog where says streght pressure...? that's only changes it roughly, but good for quick change while in a drawing, suddenly you don't want so much ink been spread (really, a well
configured Pixia+wacom surprises me as i don't see much difference with a
real stroke. Doesn't have the digital touch nowhere)Well, now check the settings you wish every moment: reflect on pen size is just that depending on the strenght it will change the size of the brush. on density, it'll make a more coarse or if press, more dense stroke.It depends on the pattern used, think of old Deluxe paint airbrush, that's the idea, but much powerful. The way a real choke (is it the word?) or brush will do. reflect on thick is is that it has now a sensivity for transparency.It is VERY important.But in case you want supper soft transparency strokes as I sue to need, you can lower the brush strenght in an another added way: In tool panels: You'd see a bunch of icons. Do you see the pencil icon? (bellow it's the blur, smudge, rotate, etc..smudge and blur could be useful. ) well, bellow them you'll see some sliders. Really they look as greyscale gradients. they're not. The left one puts a 't' before. That's for Transparency manual setting. People without wacom can use that for soft strokes. People with wacom will set with it the softer stroke. make a clear test.pick black color in tools bar. Uncheck reflect on thick, pick a big brush size in the tools pannel. uncheck pen size also. Drag the 't' slider left or right you have 256 levels (plus the 1024 of the wacom intuos or the 512 of the wacom graphire ;D) Put it to 32, and you'll a really soft stroke with your already setup for pixia wacom pen. Ok. cool one. Now, the right gradient slider. It puts a 'd'.It's for density. uncheck reflect on density (you'd better hae it unchecked for last example) darg the slider to a low value, again. This time use a 5 or 12 value. hitting on the number instead of draging the slider will be more precise -but slower-. Now you'll see a stroke similar to deluxe paint or Windows Paint airbrush. Very disperse pixels. You got it. the idea is to mixe all that I said, it's very easy to achieve a totally natural stroke or whatever you wish every moment.But a previous setup in wacom windows tools for the specific Pixia software is needed. At last but very important: er sorry, right mouse button is coor picker if you set it up in the view/setting dialog box.(F7) In paint tab. 'right clicking' setting. The undo pen is better to be setup in the first secondary button, as it's often used. Important: In this paint tab, ensure antialias is checked (it eats computer power, but is necesary. Uncheck if you have problems and see they're gone wit unchecking it. Though I really doubt it.) in 'speed' setting I always have it to 100. Experiment your self, but i have seen is the best for me by far. Menu image/Double accuracy. Set it checked. Menu File/preferences. My settings: Basic tab: checked-- small icon (gives you mour drawing space.Don't do if you're at 1024x768 windows desktop, i work at 800) , auto adjust windows size, autoinitialize tone filter. layer: 'Default display setting' In theory, only one layer as default...may give you more memory (so better stroke) but at the beguining you don't have layers created. A thing to check for really refining response. Checked:'Composition, ' 'No redrawing...' and 'double accuracy as default'. Undo: I have it to 10 undos. More undos, more memory eating, less stoke good response. Keep it in mind. restrain during freehand. Unchecked. Only check if you're into very big problems with stroke response (i should recomend to stop using that 286 then ;D ) file : 'no warning...' checked. Advanced option1: Freehand/Position smoothing-- Well don't remeber, but I had to make trial and error here. My setting is 6. try with that. Antialias. You'll have it checked if you set it up in (F7) view/setting dialog box. I have it in standard as I use mostly Pixia for pencil like sketching. But for colouring with large brushes...you may notice a bit better transitions but not really very noticeable. Try standard. Advanced option2. Image buffer, and work buffer. Put it to physical, not virtual. At least allways try this first. As it should mean it's using ram (faster memory) instead of hardrive memory. Lastly, something to note. note that you have another tool bar at the top, (if you use zoom a lot you may use to change the button size back to bigger ones in preferences) where you have the zoom + - buttons, the pen or the selection modes buttons. take this in consideration. The pen button is the mode you're in . It is not enough to have clciked on pencil icon, at the left (or right) vertical menu. If the top toolbar pencil icon is not pressed, the you have pressed some selection button and your in selection mode, you can't draw now but select. Select again the pencil icon. If you selected something by error, hit escape. if you didn't save, you wrecked the drawing, you want it all clear, hit the clear button at the top toolbar, besides zoom icons. layers and selection need a bit UI rework in my humble opininon. but hey, you may find it useable. i use to make my layers/selection work in bright, Gimp, or Photplus 5. But as you prefer. oh, for panning you have the space bar like adobe...er...with a bit of blinking..if taht upsets you, use the scrollers. Remember between last Pixia 2.4g and previous versions there's a huge difference . Ensure you have this one. few. That's why i don't want to make tuts. But it did cost me a lot to set exactly Pixia how I wanted it...it works softly with default settings...it woks perfect with all this paranoic messing. Hope it helped.It's my longest post in months
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| comicguy Getting Started (5/18/02 11:20:54 am) Reply |
an important
addition
The performance is an important thing always, but even more in wacom response. Add this to the 'improving system' part :In win98 (probably in w95 also, and don't know in XP)You may wish to right click on My Computer icon on your desktop. Click on properties....Performance tab...'file system' (well the one bellow at the left) ...and now the first tab which appears: Hard drive. Set it to server instead of Home Pc , in case you have 64 Mbs or more. i always seem to notice a really big improve of general performance with this simple thing.I also notice an improvement (many other people is of this opinion) when in performance tab, the button more at the right, Virtual Memory, if you click it, and then check the specify amount of virtual memory, I set it up for a maximun 300 and a minimun 300 (for 170 MB of ram) it works better for me. But in some systems may mean more crashes. Take care that quantity depends on your installed ram, and also you need in w98 a good value of free memory plus the 300 already taken. Fleaving a hd with less than 100 mb free is something I never do. Also, remember to have always latest video dirvers installed. Now you should have no problems now with your wacom |
| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/19/02 4:56:58 am) Reply |
Re: an important
addition
Wow what a post - I had to read it twice even tho I knew some of it. Thanks comicguy!
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| comicguy Getting Started (5/19/02 12:34:17 pm) Reply |
:)
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| Igor
S1 Knows their stuff (5/19/02 6:55:13 pm) Reply |
Re: :)
OneThinkingGal, what is the URL of Pixia program? I couldn't find it among already posted links. Btw, Comicguy- really useful tutorials
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| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/19/02 7:22:32 pm) Reply |
Re: :)
This is the URL for pixia: www.ab.wakwak.com/~knight/ Its very good! Comicguy: In pixia, is there any way to get two views on the same drawing like Photoshop lets me do? I can't zoom in and view my whole drawing otherwise. 
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| comicguy Getting Started (5/19/02 11:35:56 pm) Reply |
hi
can't?...hehe....I did imagine many people would have that problem...so I said also that in my long, long tut..so long that important details get lost in so much data The tool bar...The one at the top, not the side panel...that top tool bar has a pair of icons with a + and a - on them...with typical zoom icon on them selves.At the right end of the tool bar. just hit those buttons. You may have set up small icons in preferences, so you didn't notice. Now, 'different views of the same image like in adobe'..let me check that... well, I'm too tired now, but very quickly (I may tell you more tomorrow) you have the duplicate function , but that just makes another window of a copy of the image you're working in...but the changes you make in one are not been done in the other. Besides, you have the magnifier (another kind of zoom, I never use it but for low pixel res maybe good) 'Paint' menu/ Magnify. A smaller window were you draw in a zoomed screen and you can navigate and paint over it. Can set up another zoom number in a window option there. An powered version of that thing in the MS PaintBrush zoom window. I made a tut about how to set it up for a good stroke...but not for handling the software...anyway, one day I may make it ...just I know
how much I involve myself in a tut... |
| comicguy Getting Started (5/20/02 10:21:48 pm) Reply |
new pixia
pixia's version 2.5m came out yesterday.. i was just working with 2.4 g...oops I'll tell you later on my first impressions Oh, I forgot. There's a plugin that allows to use adobe compatible pluggins inside Pixia. There are a bunch of them for free. You can use Pixia, or ImageN for this purpose. |
| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/20/02 10:27:32 pm) Reply |
Re: new pixia
Kewl! You're really into these programs heh. Does anyone know where I can get PSP or adobe premade palettes?
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| comicguy Getting Started (5/21/02 8:58:32 am) Reply |
well, something could
be of you interest
hi i think I have somewhere a palette editor free. It allows creation of the pals by hand or extracting from a bmp file. (i used to make last one and rework it) In facty I have more than one in my CDs. But they're also everywhere on inet. One very good one allows the export and import of .pal, .ado, .act. Which with I think you have them all. You're maybe looking for the palletes , not a tool.There maybe probably be somewhere, but I'd prefer to create my own. Also I have in other cd a tiny tool which takes a bunch of images (ie frames of a sprite) , creates a common pallete for them (making some kind of average) and making each bmp use that pallette. Also a tool which automatically crops frames from a single whole bmp where you draw all the sprites...it just searchs for the rectangles you had to paint around them. I'll put the links later, now i'm in a hurry
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| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/21/02 3:11:53 pm) Reply |
Re: well, something
could be of you interest
Yes! Post the URL of the program that makes a palette from an image please.
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| comicguy Getting Started (5/21/02 6:11:25 pm) Reply |
here we go ;)
ok...that was called unipal...I'll make a search on my hd... but here is the other I also think it's good (remember you'll probably need the vbrun60.exe which is also provided in his site) www.agentur-simon.de/pedit/ well, but there wer some more... wait... yep... www.directnet.com.br/~overlord/ that was the page for Unipal. It's for less-than-256-colors sprites whenever you need to make all frames to use the same pallete, for example, the palet of one of them (you could easily create an empty frame with the colors you think you'll use in all the animation, and that file will export the palette to the others, if I'm not wrong) another palette editor, DACWORKS www.janw.de/software/download/index.html Another old good one... www.step.sk/marian/fixpal.htm And there ar emuch more, but it'll take me time to search in the CDs.
non so palette related, but have some tools for it...(or just rediscovered 2d tools) : i don't know how, but I yet didn't mention DogWaffle, a 2d editor with some animation support, with lots of filter. It's free. www.dogwaffle.com/cyberop.htm If you have a not really slow conection and can download a file of 10 MBs without much hassle, then it's easier for you to download from this reviewer, than from author's page. http://www.dailypost.com/download/files/general/graphict/dogwaffle/index.html Photoplus5 has a nice interface, and clever use of layers, some support for animation, and a bunch of filters and image handling .i posted before, but I am rediscovering some features... www.myfreephotoplus.com/ That one is easier than Gimp, though Gimp1.23b for windows is much powerful, and finally, reasonabily stable. Gimp1.23b for win has a good indexed palette editor inside it. I liked it much more than adobe ps one. Anyway, you may have a hard time to handle Gimp, and with wacom , you need to make a .bat and put it inside the \bin folder of gimp (where the gimp binary is) with just: gimp --ignore-wintab www.gimp.org/win32 Or you wont be able to paint ok with wacom with it. A new discover: It's a warping tool. Warp technique some times is good enough for animation... www.homestead.com/xiberpix/ |
| CPage
Expert (5/22/02 5:14:07 am) Reply |
Re: here we go
;)
DAMN you are a foutain of knowledge
(Insert witty signature here) |
| comicguy Getting Started (5/22/02 7:40:29 am) Reply |
er..
Look at Igor's page...I'm still recovering my self from that amount of artistry.. . |
| comicguy Getting Started (5/22/02 7:41:56 am) Reply |
I mean
he is the fountain
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| CPage
Expert (5/22/02 7:49:17 am) Reply |
Re: I mean
I know igor is a GOD
(Insert witty signature here) |
| Igor
S1 Expert (5/22/02 9:53:17 am) Reply |
Re: I mean
Stop it! Stop it! You'll make my ego rise way over the top
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| comicguy Getting Started (5/22/02 6:15:22 pm) Reply |
>D
hehe |
| comicguy Getting Started (5/22/02 6:17:16 pm) Reply |
it's just
that...
...I like to see my name always as the 'last one to post'
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| CPage
Expert (5/22/02 9:03:25 pm) Reply |
:P
:P |
| ratracer2 Expert (5/24/02 4:49:02 pm) Reply |
what's a wacom?
what's a wacom? |
| OneThinkingGal
Expert (5/24/02 6:18:17 pm) Reply |
Re: what's a
wacom?
It's a graphics tablet also called a lightpen. To see a picture go to www.wacom.com. Its handy but most of the stuff I've posted, I've done with a mouse.
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| comicguy Getting Started (5/24/02 10:53:09 pm) Reply |
really?
even though you have a wacom? :-? |
| comicguy Getting Started (5/24/02 10:57:03 pm) Reply |
optical or
'traditional'
someday I'll buy an optical one... |
| Igor
S1 Expert (5/25/02 2:29:05 pm) Reply |
Re: optical or
'traditional'
I'm looking forward to a new model of graphic "tablets" where you draw directly on screen: instead of tablet, you get a flat monitor. It's still quite expensive, but once the price will drop a bit, i think it will become a "must" for any serious work. The problem i have with Wacom is, you need to look on monitor while drawing on tablet (pain in the a** if you need accurate results). That's why i think it's nice for coloring, but can't really beat paper work... Now imagine you can draw directly on monitor No more scanning
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| Esseb Fountain of Knowledge (5/25/02 2:56:04 pm) Reply |
Re: optical or
'traditional'
Isn't the Incubus like that? A flat screen you draw right on? Gee, I hope I spelled that right |
| OneThinkingGal
Posts too much (5/25/02 4:15:56 pm) Reply |
Re: optical or
'traditional'
Yes the mouse works ok for pixel level stuff - for larger pics I switch to the tableta.
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| comicguy Knows their stuff (5/25/02 5:13:31 pm) Reply |
well...
Igor, I am sure you already messed a lot with the wacom settings...I had -some months ago- a wacom graphire at work, and I always have a Intuos 12x12 at home... I mess a real lot into the settings...that which I told for tuning it for Pixia is just some quick steps...Sometimes a really spend time on setting up. Well, what i can say is the following. In my overloaded of freebies celeron, non reinstalled windows in almost one year (I keep tweaking performance, I hate to reinstall), and with very lowered performance in comparison to when it's a fresh installation, it works similar to hand drawing, but just similar. But...at that work I was...in an Athlon 750, with 512 MBs of ram, a geforce, a quick disk (barracuda 7200 rpm), and stable and GOOD SO, I experienced (with my hard tweaking for every 2d/3d software) real softness...if it was not like pencil, it was pretty near that...In that PC it worked as a very different product. Made hundreds of drawings on it. Of course still many times quicker and better in traditional paper. But much by far it came to be incredibly better for colouring compared to traditional methods (and I'm an oil-and-whatever painter ;D) In conclussion: I only noticed a bit of less accuracy in line art drawing, and yes, much less speed. But besides, I earned lots of hours due to the by far eaiser cleaning , correcting, undoing, and colouring with wacom+pc. So...I couldn't tell you. I also hate scanning and cleaning, though my best results are achieved making line art in traditional, colouring with wacom. But hey, just talking about high res drawings. Once you're talking about interface elements, icons, and sprites,with that low res, I am too many times quicker with wacom than with mouse...and also than with traditional plus scanning and then colouring in PC. I know what are you referring too..look at that dwarf, still at sketch level, in my only post with drawings. No previous sketch and scan. If I have to sketch, lately I use pixia for it's almost identical appearence to pencil stroke. But have much less control in this computer: I need a big upgrade. I work so much similar with wacom and pc than with trad. techs, that sometimes ppl think that those lazy quick strokes cannot but be made but with a traditional pencil. In that Athlon, I managed to make some drawings for our product where I even recreated rubber bad deleting The point is: You great style seem to come from a pro 2d animator. I know they need an outstanding line precission ...I use to draw also in trad. in a very lousy way, so I made lots of drawings and at the end they came at light speed ;D But never drawn for 2d animation. So I just don't know. The movement thing is just to get used to it...I don't notice now, but I've been with years now. Wacom has an expensive model, which has a screen on the board, and a cpu inside. It must really sweet, for rich people geared to rich
designers. Hope to be rich one day Then I
ensure u I'll buy one )Anyway, even those on screen pens...well, I'd check them before saying they may be like hand drawing Anyway, I handle wacom while having a hand in keyboard, and every menu thing I managed to switch quickly to mouse, doing it very quicly. After lots of practice it came really speed. But mostly with the small tablet. For price, that graphire was the best bought I ever made in hardware. Perhaps the best choice for sprite makers, and photoshopers (and maybe not animators or high res illustrators) is an a5 or a6 wacom INTUOS, for having more pressure levels than graphire, though I wish i could show you what I made with thos 512 levels of that graphire, a mouse and a keyboard. It needs work, but I ended loving a lot it. Sorry for this long post, it's just one of my preferred conversation topics.
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| Igor
S1 Expert (5/26/02 10:21:11 am) Reply |
Re: well...
Well, one thing is certain: i love Wacom and i think there's no way to do decent graphic work on comp without it. I found it perfect for some painted like backgrounds/illustrations (isn't it soooo nice to be able to simply erase mistakes, without waiting for color to dry up, etc...?) or some really fast sketching... but it's too time consuming for me to do inked line work- especially for animation when there is no time to experiment (ok, Flash cartoons can be an exception, as there isn't really that much traditional animating). And honestly, i just like traditional inking and sketching About cleaning up- must confess i avoid cleaning up my drawings on comp (just scan and color)... if it needs to be cleaned up, i simply use light table- it's much faster and it doesn't give me a headache from looking at pixels Yeah, screen pens might be awful for all i know, but it sounds dreamy- almost paper like directness of drawing. How nicer can it get?
Edited by: Igor
S1 at: 5/26/02 10:42:11 am |
| comicguy Knows their stuff (5/26/02 11:04:07 am) Reply |
Re: well...
edit--- ahem, posted in wrong topic...  ...posted that pargraph where it should go... I'll try to answer this one later on or tomorrow but yes, it would be great the on screen drawing _______________ |
| CPage
Expert (5/27/02 2:19:44 am) Reply |
links
here is a link to a little pointless tutorial i was fiddling with when i got bored...... oh come on you gotta loce the classics looneytunes.warnerbros.com/looney_library/learntodraw/library_draw.html |
| comicguy Knows their stuff (6/9/02 11:30:41 am) Reply |
new great link
trust me, this is a good link: www.sover.net/~whoi/Sofffffffware.html Huge freeware vault, with some utils you will not find in anyother site. Seen fully Graphics section, mmedia (stuff for music people) and text editors for programmers and others. Everything is really cool, and all free. |
| comicguy Knows their stuff (6/9/02 12:36:46 pm) Reply |
zoner draw
Hi, ppl. There's a cool think I'd like to make you pay attention at, from that site. In graphics section, between 97 freewares , only one was there which I didn't know (usually, almost always, I know them all, and I use to scan all vaults) it is called Zoner Draw 3. The 4 version is the comercial one and they give a full version 3 for free. It is a kind of vectorial aplication with a rasterize function and some other stuff. I found it interesting but probably many of you will not. It has a freehand draw that you can later on node adjust or even better squeeze, distort or strech for the main shape, with no lost of quality as it is vectorial. It exports each drawing to general bitmap formats. It has a rasterize function. I don't know if it is good or bad, but is no usual to see this specific kind of software for free. Don't download from the above link, go to the main site or you want be able to register the software (is free with register, no pay, if you have 2 emails give the one you use less, it doesn't look like it is spam ware thing, but I do it as a caution ) take in consideration that for some mistakes, you will not be able to register hitting the button internet at software start (you'll have the option of a 60 days trial instead) As I have noticed that only way to do is go the download company's name, (first link) put an email and a name, and then to a register page I also provide here (second link) They mail you a first url to your email. Forget it , it doesn't work. but i found a register link at their front page which works. So once downloaded, go to the second link, and provide THE SAME info, wait for a minute or more, and check email on that account. You'll have there the code to remove 60 days limit. 1st link : www.zoner.com 2nd : reg.zoner.com/ (if does not work, go here: www.zoner.com/support/registration.asp ) Well, looking the kind of artwork and stuff mostly done at this forums, I thought some of you may like this software. I may be wrong. I have it regged, now. |
| comicguy Knows their stuff (6/15/02 4:52:01 pm) Reply |
another utils vault,
very good.
Discovered today: sac.itb.it/ pay attention to graphics and sound utils...not all are free, but many doesn't say, and are free... At graphics, there's all the free pallete utils I was missing the other day (bad memory) pixel pushers, (many sprite editors) as well as midi and those other ppl will find it useful. |
| comicguy Knows their stuff (6/16/02 12:40:56 pm) Reply |
new one
this one has been probably mentioned (perhaps by me but deserves a
special attention for such a complete solution. It is geared for gb, gba
game programmers and such. i tested it a while a go and liked a lot its
drawing tools, plus it's much more.www.cs.kun.nl/is/ts/ remember, you can download the new exe beta,(but needs the zip package; it's just the main exe) to see new feeatures, or just use the complete zip. and a tut www.cs.kun.nl/is/ts/tutor.html |
| Falcon Getting Started (6/16/02 4:21:25 pm) Reply |
3d freeware
I'm not sure if this is already posted or not. But, if anyone is interested in a 3d solution but can't afford the the programs this guy has a rather large list of freeware 3d programs. I like to promote trueSpace because I'm using trueSpace 5 right now. trueSpace 1 is now legal freeware and he has a link to this on his site as well. http://http://hosted.barrysworld.net/compiguana/boardwisdom/free.html "...'Pixelated Beauty' is not an oxymoron." |
| comicguy Knows their stuff (6/16/02 4:59:45 pm) Reply |
some pixia tuts
I know, I know...I just come here to post links...what can I say...It's true!
Remember that cool painter, Pixia. Well for those which yet don't discovered this tut, it's very clear and with lots of images: very complete, seems to cover all the important things very well: http://www.sdls.gr.jp/~min/english/pixia/tutorial/index.html another good one (layers, masking, etc) : www.geocities.com/marcalix_ca/ |
| comicguy Knows their stuff (6/22/02 10:15:49 pm) Reply |
new one
a free gif optimizer chemware.co.nz/tgo.htm |
OneThinkingGal
 Part of the furniture (6/26/02 3:27:03 pm) Reply  |
Re: new one
I figured out how to make pixia do the two view thing - its has a magnifier icon! Its quite comparable to Photoshop, I'm very impressed with it. And it takes PS
filters too.
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| comicguy Getting there (6/27/02 6:15:37 pm) Reply |
Re: new one
actually I haven't tested the adobe filters thing yet... And yes it is a great software. I use iMAGE N for that of adobe filters. I see you have it under control now I thought nowbody was going to make use of it, really. 
nothing is like PS, but Pixia can be used for those of us who likes the land of free. Still, I like much more Pixia's stroke. Lately I was more with Gimp for Windows, as it even plays the avi with the layer's I'm making as sprite frames...and due to my wacom finally works with it using that trick... keep working with Pixia, looks like you're gonna do a good use of it.
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| RobotJesus Unregistered User (6/30/02 12:18:11 am) Reply |
Well...
See -- I appreciate the links, and I appreciate the time the authors took into making the webpages and the graphics solely for the purpose of trying to help -- but there's a problem with the style of all of the ones I've seen. Instead of showing you what to do, they just tell you what to do. Take a look at 2ma2's, which is the one I've found most helpful so far. On the one where he shows how to make a complete character out of a simple outline, in 'Genetic Design', after he provides outlines for different types of characters, once he comes to the really important part about what exactly you put on that outline, it's extremely vague. By the end, he has a Sam-and-Max-quality character, with perfect shading, coloring, facial setup so that we have room to move the features in animations -- but I don't know anything about shading, coloring, or setting up faces on a pixel-by-pixel basis. I know that the tutorial wasn't about that /exactly/, but I've just been trying to look around at quite a few of them for long, and coming across the same problem, that I'm just stuck. Please don't get me wrong -- I'd be nowhere in the first place without the tutorials. I just wish there was a little more to them, because I've gotten to the point where the types of differences between user.tninet.se/~vqb114l/i...als/4d.GIF and user.tninet.se/~vqb114l/i...als/4f.GIF would make a huge difference, yet I don't know how he took that step. |
| comicguy Getting there (6/30/02 7:54:25 pm) Reply |
Re: Well...
I don't have time to make tuts this times, I in a bad moment. If not, I'd do. I have even less time to do step by step ones. The screenies and th whole explanation are a luxury I cannot use now. So , sorry, again a guessing game fo ryou But I hope it may
give you a clue , at last.You have put 2 shots from a tut from an artist. I have never seen that tut, but from the 2 pics and your wanting of create shades into a pic: See, first of all, traditional drawing knowledge is something clearly useful. Anyway, what I use to do: You have the first pic. Only plane colors and outlines. several ways: 1) Want to shade so to get lighting and '3d' effect on a shoulder? Ok, use the picker tool, perhaps if you're on adobe or Gimp, you don't need to select anotehr tool if you're painting with brush or airbrush. While having that brush cursor, press 'alt' key, and it temporary will be a color selector -picker- , holding alt key, click on the jacket, so you pick that brown color. =========================================== [ PRELUDE ABOUT FREE SOFTWARE available for you ] Well, now the stuff is that it depends on sofware used. Again, I recomend this ones: Pixia ( www.ab.wakwak.com/~knight/ ultra cool if you have a Wacom. OneThinkinGal is learning it very well. Anyway, it is not as easy as the following ones, and I wish there were some more editing options. It is one of the greatest solutions for drawing. If have wacon pen, go for it, but also one of the next ones) , Ultimate Paint 1.91f ( www.ultimatepaint.com ,download section, scroll down the page. UP free version is the easier to handle of these softwares but the less powerful one.Anyway, probably enough for sprites/tiles/backgrouns.) Photoshop (I don't use to recomend expensive software, though this is the best ever) , GIMP for windows ( www.gimp.org/win32 The best free option. Has everything needed. Just that. But not really for fast learning, though if one gets used to it, one gets really happy ;D I use it often) , Bright 1.06. Easy, powerful, free, though don't know why it disappeared from the net. I know it's pretty usable. One of the best darken/Bright tools ever made. Great stuff it has avi and animation support. The bad point: you rarely will find it, and I don't have an FTP to upload this one or some others rare to find. Embelish www.dadaware.com . Download is not going Again, I also
have it...and I'm afraid I am not going to email thillions of ppl all the
asked zips. If someone can
provide FTP with high bandwith cool then, I can upload that. Even email
the guy the stuff.All of those can accomplish the needed tasks. [ END OF PRELUDE ABOUT FREE SOFTWARE available for you ] =========================================== Ok, as I was saying. In whatever the software, it use to be clicking with th color picker over the color of the cloth you want to shade (jacket) . So you got that brown color. Now, for example in Pixia y the color dialog box, you can decrease the amount of black dragging the slider: you'll have a brighter brown. If it is for 256 color games, use the pencil instead of brush or airbrush to apply the color surronding the outline outer contour. As for 256 color sprite, you don't want to add extra colors due to the blurring produced by brush/airbrush. For shading take care of this: you don't darken/brighten in random areas. DECIDE the light direction. From where light is coming. just try to thing which parts (acording to the 3d shapes) will be see brighter depending on the light orientation, where is placed the light source. IE: there's only one LAMP giving light to an sphere. Only one. COULD you imagine that that sphere will have shiny colors in the upper countour as also in the lower contour, nop. Impossible. The fact is ppl get confused, as in real life there are lots of light sources. You: "hey, what? I only see sun light" Me : "Yep, but the sun is a bad guy and reflects in many things. Those things trhow that light, which is reflected..." Let us do not get paranoid. The only thing to know is main stuff. Hey, if a guy is standing in a room, and there is a lamp on the top, he'll abosulutely have brightened contours in the shoulder, probably upper chest, and the more perpendicular a plane is in relation with light source, the more brighten that plane gets. Easier than it sounds....BUT...imagine there is also a fire in the room. That is another ligh source. It is located in the floor, in a wall. take care as it is going to produce some bright colors on some part of the guy. just think of the ligh source position and the direction 'rays' of that light. That's the key of shading. In 256 color graphics...yo gotta be careful, use the less tones to achieve the more realistic effect. if your allowed, use two tones at least to get kindda gradient to make it real. Look at the hand of that man. he probaly pick the hand color, and in the color dialog, he just increase the black percentage of that color and paint later on. 2) second method (perhaps more suited for rgb, also called true color, also called 24 bits color. Or even for 16 bits color mode.) The above free tools I suggested as them all a brighten and darken tool. That maybe quicker. In GIMP or ADOBE Photoshop, the workflow is outstandly quick. Just take your wacom (or mouse) and click on that kind of pin or hand in the tool bar (PS if I remember well, make appear one or another if you keep that button pressed) In this too tools doesn't mind who you choose, as you'll have the other just whilst pressing alt!! So it really quick that way. Once you have all the base colors carefully filled. You take the darken/brighten tool, and start shading/lighting. You'll be pressing alt as you'll be darkening or lightening. Gimp allows you to setup your own keys. Adobe doesn't, or that I think. Both have several styles of darken/brighten.Take care: some of them are pretty unreal. As they also saturate the color, not only draken and brighten. And it is not so common. Still some saturation can be added for sun light. But only some. _______________ |
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